Lancia Motor Club Forum
Model Technical and Interest => Delta and Prisma => Topic started by: Evo1 on 18 August, 2014, 05:12:24 PM
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Hi all, just joined the club due to finally owning an Evo 1 ;D, been told by previous owner that John Whalley gave it a minor chip upgrade a few years ago and now produces 300bhp, it certainly has a kick when the turbo starts spooling up.
Can anyone reccommend a realy good mechanic that is familiar with these cars and that's based in or near Surrey.
I want to get the belts/tensioners replaced, any idea where i can get some good quality items.
Also need front and rear door cards if anyone has any for sale, not fussed on colour as will be getting them retrimmed.
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Did you get this resolved?
2 'local' specialists come to mind
Auto Integrale in Reading (this is where mine goes - I'm based in Guildford)
Day & Whites - Brands Hatch
Not much else closer I reckon. Where in Surrey are you?
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Or Zagato in London as used by another Surrey member.
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I'm based in Guildford as well, have had a chat with Keith at Auto Integrale and will probably get it booked in with him, sounds like a nice honest bloke
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Hi everyone, always seems quiet on the grale posts here, finally found the time to book my car in with Keith at AI for an oil service and belts, i'm not totally up to speed with the car yet, but what should be replaced when doing a cam belt change parts wise, the car also has air con and whats the best oil for these engines, i use Fuchs/Titan Race Pro R fully synthetic 15w-50 in one of my other classic turbo charged cars and can see no reason why it couldnt be used in the grale as well, any advice/recommendations would be much appreciated :)
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Am sure Keith can advise best on oil as he must service a few chipped Evos. I heard doing the water pump is wise when changing the belts....
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Am sure Keith can advise best on oil as he must service a few chipped Evos. I heard doing the water pump is wise when changing the belts....
Had some work done on a ford BDT engine last year, the w/pump was fine but as the engine was out we decided to change the the original pump as a precaution mainly due to fact that it's a bugger to get to when engine is in place, long story short, the pattern pump (original part not available any more) started to leak several months later through the weep hole >:(, some pattern parts are simply poor quality and i should have left the original one in place, so i now adopt "if it's not broke dont replace it" will probably ask Keith to check for any rumbling/noisy bearing/play.
Can anyone tell me what should be replaced on a full cam belt change, even as a precaution regardless of any wear or not.
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Am sure Keith can advise best on oil as he must service a few chipped Evos. I heard doing the water pump is wise when changing the belts....
Had some work done on a ford BDT engine last year, the w/pump was fine but as the engine was out we decided to change the the original pump as a precaution mainly due to fact that it's a bugger to get to when engine is in place, long story short, the pattern pump (original part not available any more) started to leak several months later through the weep hole >:(, some pattern parts are simply poor quality and i should have left the original one in place, so i now adopt "if it's not broke dont replace it" will probably ask Keith to check for any rumbling/noisy bearing/play.
Can anyone tell me what should be replaced on a full cam belt change, even as a precaution regardless of any wear or not.
Going by the other twin cam Lampredi based engines you need to replace all the bearings, 3 if I remember correctly, Dedra has counterbalance shaft belt as well but I don't think the evos have, while your at it it's worth changing all the belts at the same time rather than have to half do it all again to replace alternator/ water pump/ and power steering belts.
Brian
8227 8)
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Thanks for the info, gonna get all the belts and bearings replaced ;D, i was suprised how wide a track the car has after i got it on my trailer, doesnt seem that wide until you see it taking up the width on a trailer
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Thanks for the info, gonna get all the belts and bearings replaced ;D,
it is normal to do the water pump at the same time on evos...........
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it is normal to do the water pump at the same time on evos...........
Just had it alll done today, cam belt kit, balance belt, auxillary belt, air-con belt, air-con tensioner, balance belt tensioner, idler bearing and an oil service.
Keith from AI mentioned that the cam belt should be changed every 3 years or 20,000 miles, is the water pump supposed to be replaced every 3 years/20,000 miles ??? a pump should last far far longer or is it just that some owners want to replace them regardless of whether there is a problem with it.
Decided to drive the car home as it was such a nice day, had a really nice blast down the A4 and M4, had a smile on my face the entire time ;D and just fantastic when the turbo kicks, wish i had bought one far sooner
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Hi all, i 've been toying with getting the underside of my grale tidied up, things like getting all the the suspension components and bracketry powder coated, including hub carriers, anti roll bars, diff carrier etc. The bodywork had a complete glass out respray back in 2011 by John Whalley and is still in immaculate condition, the quality of the paintwork is the best i have seen for a long time, real shame that John Whalley retired after the fire.
Although it's a straightforward job, I would rather not do the work myself as i dont realy have the time, can anyone recommend a good resto garage that is reliable and provides a good standard of work, in and around the south east area.
Here's a photo of my car, not many owners post any pictures of their cars here :'(
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If you have a look on the club database http://www.lanciadb.co.uk/ then there are lots of uploaded pictures there of various cars - a gallery if you like. You'll find in the library under onlinepublications ( accessed via the database ) there are some big PDFs containing the car pictures
Pictures also go to the website as events happen - just a bit quiet at the moment :)
We do get restoration threads going and these tend to get a lot of the detailed images put there.
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If you have a look on the club database http://www.lanciadb.co.uk/ then there are lots of uploaded pictures there of various cars - a gallery if you like. You'll find in the library under onlinepublications ( accessed via the database ) there are some big PDFs containing the car pictures
Pictures also go to the website as events happen - just a bit quiet at the moment :)
We do get restoration threads going and these tend to get a lot of the detailed images put there.
Cant seem to log into the database with my memb number and password, presummably it's the same password i use to log into the the forum?
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Hi
I think you will need to ask Steve for a password from memory, he admins the database and no it is not the same as the forum, separate systems unfortunately.
Peter
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Hi
I think you will need to ask Steve for a password from memory, he admins the database and no it is not the same as the forum, separate systems unfortunately.
Peter
that'll be why i could'nt in then :'(, and another password to remember ::), will get on to Steve, thanks
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If you have a look on the club database http://www.lanciadb.co.uk/ then there are lots of uploaded pictures there of various cars - a gallery if you like. You'll find in the library under onlinepublications ( accessed via the database ) there are some big PDFs containing the car pictures
Pictures also go to the website as events happen - just a bit quiet at the moment :)
We do get restoration threads going and these tend to get a lot of the detailed images put there.
Hi Steve, could you email me the password for the Lancidb, thanks
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Looking at it, you may be setup already and simply clicking through on the I've forgotten my password could send you one automatically?
Peter
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Hi Claudio, I will get the database to send you a password - as Peter says they are separate systems so separate way of encrypting passwords ... what you can do is change them yourself to be the same thing once you have the system generated password.
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Hi Claudio, I will get the database to send you a password - as Peter says they are separate systems so separate way of encrypting passwords ... what you can do is change them yourself to be the same thing once you have the system generated password.
Ok, thanks
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Nice Derby Green, unusual colour!
water pump should be considered for a change only if engine out for clutch change.
Paul
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Cheers Paul, been told it's one of 4 in this exclisive colour and only one of 2 converted from new to RHD by John Whalley Lancia main dealer, is it just a precaution on these cars to change the water pump or do they have a habit of premature failure ??? Claudio
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Claudio
It is a good idea to change it whilst engine is out thats all.
Only 4 cars were imported this colour one was totalled early on, after that people like Len Street in London imported some in this rare colour as Blue Madras was also rare.
Is your number plate ending RRR?
I remember two owners of that car and remember Whalley converting it.
paul
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It's not the RRR car, seems like Whalley did a top job on conversions, even changed the scuttle so the wipers were sweeping the right way for a RHD car, i dont think i would have bought a RHD car if it was converted by non approved garages/dealers as i've heard they were'nt done well
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It's not the RRR car, seems like Whalley did a top job on conversions, even changed the scuttle so the wipers were sweeping the right way for a RHD car, i dont think i would have bought a RHD car if it was converted by non approved garages/dealers as i've heard they were'nt done well
Funny how often that gets missed. I converted a Fiat 124 Spider to right hand drive and moved the scuttle positions and wiper rack to sweep the right way. Just converted the Stratos to left hand drive and moved the wiper on the scuttle too! (It does make a difference even if there's only one blade!).
Have you ever noticed Renault Clios in RHD form still have LHD wipers..... Should be a law against it.
Guy
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How much better are the peddles LHD in the Stratos? Is the arch in the right place to use as a left foot rest/brace? Is the accelerator still a weird offset just in the other direction?
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Have you ever noticed Renault Clios in RHD form still have LHD wipers..... Should be a law against it.
Guy
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That's bizarre, wonder how they got away withn that and why ???
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How much better are the peddles LHD in the Stratos? Is the arch in the right place to use as a left foot rest/brace? Is the accelerator still a weird offset just in the other direction?
It's better if you order the kit as LHD as the chassis is asymmetric, more room in the drivers footwell so I've lost about 3/4 inch. Pedal offsets are towards the centre of the car so yes, it feels a little odd at first whichever side you sit but you soon get used to it. The arch is in the wrong place for a footrest but there's enough space to fit one.
It's a little cramped in the footwell but nothing that's too much of an issue! Just need to use proper driving shoes. Like the Sabelt Centenary racing boots!
Guy
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How much better are the peddles LHD in the Stratos? Is the arch in the right place to use as a left foot rest/brace? Is the accelerator still a weird offset just in the other direction?
Just need to use proper driving shoes. Like the Sabelt Centenary racing boots!
Guy
bought a pair at the Centenary but haven't been able to bring myself to wear them - until NOW!!!!!
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bought a pair at the Centenary but haven't been able to bring myself to wear them - until NOW!!!!!
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Likewise. So I bought a second pair. Don't like wearing either but really need to now!
Guy
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Peter Dicks in the Herts and Beds group has an 8 valve converted to RHD from new, I think by John Whalley. It might be worth comparing notes with him. I have been told that the only RHD rack they could use was from a Regatta estate which is rather lower geared compared to the original integrale rack. Is this really true?
John Whalley advertise themselves as "the" authorised dealer for converting integrals to RHD. They also advertise as building Stratos replicas having rallied both Stratos and RHD Integrales competitively.
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John Whalley advertise themselves as "the" authorised dealer for converting integrals to RHD. They also advertise as building Stratos replicas having rallied both Stratos and RHD Integrales competitively.
Closed a couple of years ago...