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flatfourontour

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Headlamp circuit fault
« on: 10 June, 2026, 07:58:29 AM »
Symptom: Sidelights switched on- The nearside dipped beam comes on with the side lights.
Dipped beams switched on- same, no off-side headlamp.
Main beam ok.
The dipped and side circuit seem to go through a relay under the passenger side next to the glove box.This relay clicks when sides are selected, but no further click on dipped.
The main beam through a second relay.
Bulbs and fuses all good.

I am guessing some kind of wiring or earth fault, I haven't tried changing relays as the relay switches on sides...vut maybe the crosswire is internal to this relay somehow?
Thanks in advance for any ideas!
Jon



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Re: Headlamp circuit fault
« Reply #1 on: 11 June, 2026, 01:05:57 PM »
Typical...today everything is working perfectly.

neil-yaj396

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Re: Headlamp circuit fault
« Reply #2 on: 12 June, 2026, 09:08:00 AM »
Probably dodgy earths. Worth just cleaning up all the earth points and connections.
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flatfourontour

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Re: Headlamp circuit fault
« Reply #3 on: 13 June, 2026, 07:11:49 AM »
Thanks, yes I will try that.
It's intermittent.
It's a strange fault though.
Main beam is fine, so not the local earth.
When sides are selected, the n/s dip comes on, and a relay clicks.
When relay removed, just sides, but n/s dip still comes on when dipped selected.
I found a wiring diagram (not sure it's the precise correct one) and the n/s dip is wired separately somehow through a control unit. I'm not competent enough to follow the diagram, or know where such a control unit may be sited, or to work out which relay is supposed to switch when and for what.
Anyhow, I posted on here with the hope that it may be a known fault on the Delta/Prisma, but maybe not.


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Re: Headlamp circuit fault
« Reply #4 on: 14 June, 2026, 02:23:27 PM »

I've had another look. The relay is for the dim-dip circuit. Basically it switches when sides are switched via a resistor to the dip beam circuit, supplying about 5.5v at the connector to the dip beam. This explains why the dipped beam comes on (less bright than usual) when sides are selected. When headlamp dipped switch is selected then full 12v goes to the dipped beam (11.3v at the connector). So the dim-dip is a kind of primitive daytime running light set up to give better illumination when sides are selected (a bit strange but hey-ho).
As the n/s works all ok, the fault can only be at the fuse box onwards, as the o/s dip and main has it's own wiring only from there. It is connector B1 at the back of the fusebox, no other connectors on the wiring diagram. Anyhow, for now everything is working, good voltage at the headlamp connection. If it plays up again there are only 2 places to look, 11 something volts at the headlamp connector (or 5.5 if on dim-dip) in which case it must be the spade connector in the headlamp bulb block, or if no voltage there, then the fuse box out to see what's happening at B1.
To be honest, we were in Scotland for 10 days and it was damp and wet most days....can't be the earth as I said, the mainbeam is fine and the earth is shared.
It's surprising that the headlamp circuits go through the column switch with no relays...there is only one relay in the circuit and this is for the dim-dip resistor.