B21 (?) on ebay

[williamcorke]

Looks very original. Do any forum members know the car?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370419902210&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[fay66]

Looks very original. Do any forum members know the car?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370419902210&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Looks as those it's just come out from hibernation somewhere on the Continent, lovely time warp Aurelia.

Brian
8227

[Sliding Pillar]

I have asked contacts in Belgium if they know the car. Will post any reply. The lack of documents is a worry!

[chriswgawne]

I cant help but be suspicious when there are no documents or recent history. Or am I just being cynical?Also the Chassis number is not shown in the photos as far as I can see. Also a little worrying when there are no papers. From what I can remember, Belgium's paperwork and registering requirements for old cars is pretty rigorous so again why no papers?
The price seems quite low (at the moment) and I would have thought that one of the active Belgian Lancia members would have some previous knowledge of this car.

[DavidLaver]

Wouldn't it be great if the International Collective of Clubs or whatever it's called had a register of cars that were stolen...  We'd know in a couple of clicks, and they'd know we'd know in a couple of clicks.

Odds are its been well stored the last 20, 30, 40 years and the papers have not.  The Strada Abarth I was given had only been put away for a couple of years, less than five, but it took him three years more for the papers to surface.  A house move wasn't enough for them to surface, a sort through before moving abroad and he found them.

All the same the vendor could be more reassuring...  Its human nature to want the back-story.

David

[HF_Dave]

Nice car but I wonder if i'ts all that honest, there seems to be a lot of prep work carried out underneath, the tank has been sprayed with schults, I wonder what that's hiding ?. I'd say its been in storage for a long time but judging by the state of the door cards it must have been fairly damp. Still a nice project if you get it at the right money 

[williamcorke]

So the seller (actually, it seems, the seller's agent) has responded to several questions on the ebay listing page.

The car is a B21, and the chassis number is B21-3532

On ownership and title, the replies are still a bit hazy, to my way of reading anyway.  The line is that there are no papers because the car was bought with several others.  I don't have to point out the flawed logic in this excuse to educated readers from the LMC...

Whatever the real story, I'm very tempted to take a ride up to North London to have a close look at the car; not with a view to purchasing it but to take some notes for my B10 restoration.  If anyone wants a report on the car (as a potential buyer), then PM me.

[Richard Fridd]

amazing stuff, can anyone guess the the selling price from the pictures so far.11,000 sterling?- or is that B20 in berkshire a better bet?

[Sliding Pillar]

There certainly seem to be some question marks about this car and its lack of history!  One interesting feature is that it has been fitted with a second series 2000cc  B20 engine (Two single Webber carbs and 3 rocker cover bolts) so would be 80 bhp as opposed to the original engines 70 bhp. It is a pity it has had underseal sprayed all over the underside, this only leads one to think it is a cover-up job!
As to your question Richard to which would be the safer bet this or Richard Thornes B20. I would have thought that the B21 Saloon could be on the road with a good going over, new brakes and clutch, so for say £3-4,000, then you would have a car worth about £25,000. The B20 would cost between £30-40,000 to restore and you would have a car worth £70-80,000.  Obviously the B20 is the better financial bet, but would also take a lot longer to do, and the whole project would take much more time plus financial comitment.

[Sliding Pillar]

It sold for £11,202

[DavidLaver]

Good guess Mr Fridd !!!

David

[lancialulu]

Yes but to who? My money is on Cristo!

Tim

[Richard Fridd]

hope to see it sometime.the price is right!

[williamcorke]

I'd like to know if the auction winner had inspected the car before bidding.

[appiaman]

Hi Tim you are right the car has made its way to me 3 months after it was on e-bay.

I need some help from anyone who can help.
I have done all the mechanical work on the car bar waiting for a new alternator  from Peter Harding  and a intermitted starter its running very well.
However the body   seemed very fine and not too rusty but I have taken the wings of today to fix hanging front doors but have open Pandora’s box the A posts are very bad.
All the bottom section though very original and un-welded are rotten and there’s a  few big holes leaving it very open to how  or what was in there.
I have a very skilled man working on the metal work but I need some sort of diagram or pictures to see what the A-frames and bottom sections should look like as there is not enough metal left to use as templates to replicate new parts
All help would be appreciated
Christo