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gtx60

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1600 HF stalling
« on: 07 May, 2026, 02:50:40 PM »
After the car has fully warmed up was running well on a second run out this year, however after being in some slow moving  traffic it went through a spate of stalling at every stop (5 times) until I returned home.
Appreciate Solex carbs hold their tune pretty well but can anybody shed any light on the reason??

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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #1 on: 07 May, 2026, 05:20:40 PM »
Did it restart immediately or did you have to wait a while?
If the former, you may just need to adjust the idle screw.  The latter can be caused by flooding if there is dirt in the system that keeps a needle valve from closing fully.  Having an additional pressure regulator and filter before the fuel pump helps.  You may need to clean the plugs as well if it has not been run properly for a while.

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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #2 on: 07 May, 2026, 06:55:09 PM »
If the engine and the weather were both hot (and you had not switched on the engine fan), fuel vapourisation in a fuel line can cause this.  It once happened to me in a queue of traffic in the Dartford tunnel, so I can never forget.  I needed to prime the fuel pump before it would re-start...  I re-routed the fuel lines away from the block and eventually added an auxiliary electric pump. 

gtx60

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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #3 on: 07 May, 2026, 08:47:44 PM »
Hi GlynW,
Thanks for your response. The engine had to turn over a few times before firing. I note your thoughts on fuel vaporisaton but I have an electric pump fitted to prime the carbs and only just changed spark plugs. My car normally idles faster than most due to one of the butterfly valves not sealing properly......the faster idle I've got used to hence the surprise when it kept stalling.

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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #4 on: 08 May, 2026, 05:11:28 AM »
Do you have an inline filter that is getting blocked due to crud from the fuel tank?

I dont suspect fuel vapourisation as the Fulvia was designed to operate in much hotter climes (even allowing for the more volatile E5 fuels).

Has the timing changed? Points gap closed etc? Too many variables to diagnose at a distance.
Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
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1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21.  12v

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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #5 on: 08 May, 2026, 12:00:35 PM »
The engine had to turn over a few times before firing. I note your thoughts on fuel vaporisaton but I have an electric pump fitted to prime the carbs and only just changed spark plugs. My car normally idles faster than most due to one of the butterfly valves not sealing properly......the faster idle I've got used to hence the surprise when it kept stalling.
I would normally start with the things that are easiest to check and look to see if there are any signs of dirt in the filters (do you have a Filter King installed?), if the fuel line between the carbs is empty (mine is transparent) or that it is not misfiring during normal running and if you move the wires to the coil or distributor. (do you have points or an electronic ignition?)  If it dies gently, rather than abruptly, I would suspect fuel rather than ignition, but both can be checked. 

I have not been impressed with the float hinge on the Solex 42DDHF carbs, so you may find it is sticking and allowing a carb to flood at idle.  Dirt in a recent fill-up or if the car has been laid up and the tank is rusty can stop the float valve closing.  All are straightforward to access from the top of the carburettor and will allow you to see if the float chamber contains long-term deposits. Let us know how the detective work goes!

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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #6 on: 08 May, 2026, 01:34:16 PM »
Use state of plugs to see if you are running over rich. Fulvias idle lower (and stall) if ignition is retarded from normal setting. Points closing can retard the ignition and cause the dwell angle to lower not charging the coil.....
Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21.  12v

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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #7 on: 08 May, 2026, 02:38:16 PM »
Thanks Tim....the car has electronic 123 ignition so not a points issue and the timing is slightly advanced to help cater for the faster idle, I will check the fuel filter for debris and take it out again to see if it persists. Thks

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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #8 on: 09 May, 2026, 07:09:47 AM »
I wonder if it has anything to do with the electronic ignition especially with underbonnet heat.
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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #9 on: 09 May, 2026, 12:32:09 PM »
I wonder if it has anything to do with the electronic ignition especially with underbonnet heat.

Or voltage??? I hear 123 is a bit fussy. At tick over the alternator should still charge but what is the supply to the 123 at that time?
Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21.  12v

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Re: 1600 HF stalling
« Reply #10 on: 11 May, 2026, 10:42:38 AM »
With the 123 I believe it’s normally an over voltage that can cause the system to momentarily shut down. It should be fine on battery voltage at idle.

New plugs? Where did you source them?