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Kari

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« Reply #150 on: 20 April, 2025, 03:53:06 PM »
Hello Mark,
It looks like the owners manual you have, differs from the original one I have. In there is no mention of a "normal position of the handle"
It contains a warning, if going downhill long and/or steep, to lock out the freewheel in order to safe brake linings. (engine braking)

IMHO, Lancia was convinced that a freewheel was useful and went into expenses to develop and integrate a freewheel into the gearbox. Therefore, the presence of the freewheel and the text in the original manual imply that driving in freewheel mode was "normal"

Now, if you car runs fine with the freewheel locked out, please continue. Perhaps there is another cause of the strange behaviour of the freewheel. That will be seen, when the box will be opened.

Happy motoring

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Kari

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« Reply #151 on: 20 April, 2025, 04:00:48 PM »
The translation text did not appear, only as a link.

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« Reply #152 on: 21 April, 2025, 12:17:46 PM »
Thanks Karl,
Compare and contrast the attached, page 32-33 of the official UK Lancia Augusta Owners Manual, sent to me by the Club librarian.
All best cheers,
Mark
 

Kari

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« Reply #153 on: 21 April, 2025, 02:47:49 PM »
Thanks Mark,

Obviously the translator didn't like the freewheel.......

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« Reply #154 on: 24 April, 2025, 06:31:24 AM »

First little road report.

Did sixty miles in her yesterday. Andrew from Omicron dropped her off at Ed Rudler's place, where I keep her, and I took her to see Mike and Cynthia Wheeler (they of the big red Lambda and the china blue supercharged March Augusta). And she's simply lovely. Fun, characterful, already had people taking photos and smiling and giving thumbs up. That's what it's about, other people enjoying it as well.  The only annoying thing is the engine's vibration period is 50-52 in top. So it's either 48 or 54.

55 it is then.

Speaking of 55, there's a quite a steep long old hill near where I live and she pulled up there at 55 in top no bother.  It is a bit strange though, having the vibration period there.  Of course it means as a town and back road car it's perfect because it'll trundle around all day in top, and pulls from nigh on 20 in top no trouble. It just means you've got to drive it through that vibration on A and B roads. 

And it handles, gosh, surprisingly well. But you all know that.  Turns in beautifully and 'hangs on' very assuredly, even if the rear suspension is a bit agricultural and can get unsettled by big, short undulations. I can understand why they changed it to the 'trick' set up on the Aprilia. Gearbox is lovely and light, three fingers only needed. Not synchromesh of course, but easy to learn the amount of 'blip' to give it. And since we raised the height of the accelerator pedal, heel and toeing - well outstep and toeing actually - is now perfect. Such a joy. Don't need the freewheel. I can see why Vincenzo dropped it for the Aprilia. Besides, I doubt Tazio would ever have engaged it.

My first car was a Fiat Uno, a little a 45hp 3 door in Standard spec, a 45S. Always felt it needed rear doors and a rev counter. So this is Lancia's version as a 35hp 4 door in their Lusso spec with leather seats and - now - a rev counter. A 35SL, 35SX in Fiat language. X for 'extra'. Clearly the people at Fiat in the '80s couldn't spell. Ahem, I digress. Anyway, a 35 Lusso. Exactly what I wanted. And much prettier than the Uno of course, and better packaged too with those clamshell doors. Happily keeps up with the traffic, and importantly stops very well too. Needs a good solid push on the brake pedal, as you all know, but not a problem. Very like the '87 Bentley Eight I have; that isn't servo assisted either. No, I'm confident in the brakes (famous last words). Fuel range looks like it'll be about 240 miles with the smaller Belna tank. Fine.

Importantly, Mike was impressed and said "Well done, that's very good." Which is high praise coming from him. Just so long as it stays together now.... Fingers crossed.


Mark Dibben

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Re: The Paul Atkinson - Augusta - news update [etc] ...
« Reply #155 on: 24 April, 2025, 04:39:30 PM »
At the Classic Motor Hub in Bibury today - with some other more modern Italian motor cars. Which is more pretty? :-)

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« Reply #156 on: 24 April, 2025, 06:15:08 PM »
It's in the eye of the beholder! I'll have that lovely Montecarlo please!

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« Reply #157 on: 24 April, 2025, 06:54:22 PM »

Fabulous to see its out and about - and to hear a fresh driving impression.
David Laver, Lewisham.

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« Reply #158 on: 26 April, 2025, 12:02:42 AM »
I do admit the Montecarlo was lovely.
Thanks David - More driving today, fuel range less than I thought. Ha - must have been parked on a slope! Nearer 180-200 I think now, 22mpg anyway. Most importantly, I have worked out why it's got the balance factor where it is at 3.2 - 3.4. That's coz doing the maths by translating the revs to half the maximum speed in 2nd and 3rd shown on a card on the dash (we fitted the rev counter to this, it wasn't standard, in the aperture for the original large clockwork fuel gauge), it red lines at 5001(!) rpm. She certainly smooths out and is much happier at 3.5-3.9. Seems like she could run there all day.
Thus I surmise whoever it was who did the numbers, that balance this crank anyway, was of the view the car was either to be:
a) trundled around town in 3rd and mostly 4th and so shouldn't vibrate at all down at those low revs; or
b) driven with enthusiasm at 55-60-plus out on the open road. Therefore 50-52 in top was the right balance factor speed, 3-2, 3-4. Good.
[Although  that vibration period does move around just a little bit and some times it's more pronounced than at other times, and then some other times it seems hardly noticeable at all. Hmm.]
That's it for a while on the driving front, I'm afraid. Next report probably around this time next month. But another good learning day :-)

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« Reply #159 on: 26 April, 2025, 05:15:18 PM »

I wonder if this guy noticed the vibration period :)

http://blog.lanciainfo.com/?p=2452
David Laver, Lewisham.

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« Reply #160 on: 27 April, 2025, 08:21:05 PM »
Hello David,
Ah thanks for sharing that. Ha - I'm not up to 'tossing the back end out', mind you that will have been most likely on gravel roads.
I realised after I wrote the last post that - of course! - one must really let the car rev out past about 4.5, I imagine, in 2nd and 3rd to ensure that when one changes into 3rd and then 4th one is above that vibration period. At least, one must ensure that one spends the smallest amount of time revving through it in 2nd and 3rd, and avoiding it entirely in top. Which really does mean it's a 55-60 mph car all the time.
I'll do that then. Mind you in my defense, I only figured the red line was 5 and not 4, about twenty minutes before getting to Wootton Basset, and most of that was spent above 3.2 anyway :-)  From the throttle openings, the SU is going to let it top out at about 72-74 I reckon. Bearing in mind the Grenfel of Brooklands supercharged ones were able to get all the way to the red line in top (78).
Already I'm confident the front is going to stick whatever I do, and I'm pretty sure the back will stay where it is, even if it hops up and down a bit. It doesn't feel like it's ever going to bounce out of line, as long as one is really driving the car through the turns that is. It might play up a bit if one forgot it was rear wheel drive and tried to drive the throttle like a front wheel drive car...
But it is SO good, the most fun I've had in a car for a very long time. And this is someone who sold an MX-5 because it was boring. Why? Coz to begin to exploit the MX-5's chassis you had to be dong 80 miles an hour through the turns, which is simply not safe on the open road. Boring. Bored me to tears! 
No, all that fun within the legal limit, and the engine sounds absolutely lovely. Plus for added extra enjoyment there's that external air intake (remember we fitted external air intakes for both exhaust and inlet manifolds): Stand beside it at tick-over and it whistles sweetly, as air is sucked into the SU. Delightful :-)
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« Reply #161 on: 06 May, 2025, 11:52:37 AM »
James Parry might have advice regarding high speed handling as he used to use his a lot, and runs a tyre business...and of course his dad knew them inside and out. 

Am now remembering a favourite picture Colin Marr has shared a few times of an Aprilia at Goodwood really going for it.  They still pop up on competitive rallies but I'm wondering how long it's been since a proper hooligan had an Augusta.

Whenever Top Gear goes to a VSCC trial or something similar I wonder if there will ever be a period drama with a really proper vintage car chase.   
David Laver, Lewisham.

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« Reply #162 on: 06 May, 2025, 11:57:43 AM »
I'm also remembering maybe a 1960s photo of an Augusta perhaps at a VSCC driving test event.  It might be showing just how tight those front wheels would turn.

Do you know the photo of one on Tower Bridge showing how well the handbrake works? 

Am wondering now how much is my imagination.  Did the Duke of Gordon describe his March Specials as "like polo ponies"?  Perhaps in a pre war article in Motor Sport.
David Laver, Lewisham.

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Re: The Paul Atkinson - Augusta - news update [etc] ...
« Reply #163 on: 08 May, 2025, 09:39:39 AM »
Thanks David, great! I do remember those photos somewhere. 
On another topic entirely, the battery isn't charging even in high speed running.
Any thoughts anyone?
I have seen in the magazine that a 'dynator' for a Beetle will fit? But before I go and order one...
Thanks ever so much,
Mark
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« Reply #164 on: 13 November, 2025, 10:59:23 PM »
Well, the dynamo was only charging 3 amps. Enough to put the lamp on the dash out, but not enough to do anything else. Rory the vintagewireman.co.uk diagnosed it, and we sent it away to be 'dynatored'. Took the whole summer, but finally got it in the car a few weeks ago. All good, charging 15 amps.
As you know, putting an ammeter in the car would mean virtually rewiring it, but I found a 6V voltmeter on sale in France - so Rory fitted that last week. That is, while the car was at AKVR having the problem solved of the Bosch headlamps being unable to take an LED headlamp bulb (they have the side-lamps LED'd already), without it fouling the glass. Important if I'm going to drive the car in the darker months. Which I intend to.
Anyway, can you - ahem - spot the difference?! (If you open the picture in a new tab on its own, it sizes correctly...)
The idea to put the clock where it is, in its own 'dash', which AKVR did for me too, actually came from one of the original W.O. Bentley Le Mans cars. This had the clock in the passenger door on account of the fact they had run out of room in the dash. Well, that wasn't possible obviously, but what was possible has been done. Works ever so well, easy to read by the driver (at night, I can turn the dash nav lamp on to get the requisite illumination). And where it is, it's so much easier to wind and adjust too. The one instrument that's hidden, by the steering wheel, is the engine temperature gauge. A life-long dream of mine to have a dashboard festooned with instruments, accomplished! And of course, every sports car of the period had the rev counter nearest the driver...
So it's right to left: rear suspension pressure; water temp; fuel; oil pressure (the only gauge in its original position); rev counter; speedometer; voltmeter; inside ambient temp; outside ambient temp (these two on account of my MS not regulating body temperature normally...); clock. A proper little sports saloon dashboard. The spot lamps are operated by the switch to the right of the freewheel device. Although since the photo was taken we've gone to a simple rocker switch to match the electric fan one on the far right, because the switch in the photo rattled (made in China; poor build quality I'm afraid).
I'm really pleased with how it has all come together now. After getting on for five years, the little car is finally as I imagined it could be, when I bought it. Patience is a virtue :-)
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